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Dec 31 2015Filed In:,I recently bought a Proform 12.0TT treadmill from Costco. One of the major reasons I picked this particular treadmill was because it supports, which is supposed to allow you to make custom workouts with google maps.
Unfortunately, iFit Live has turned out to be complete garbage. My first frustrations started when I tried to connect my treadmill to my iFit account. I spent a couple of hours and got nowhere, because it kept complaining that it wasn’t able to contact the iFit server. I thought maybe it was that my WiFi wasn’t configured correctly, even though the treadmill was able to obtain a valid IP address. I tried submitting a support ticket, and was completely appalled by the horrible total lack of support. They didn’t even bother to respond to my ticket for more than a week, and by that time, I’d figured out that there server had gone down for a few days one day, it finally just started talking to their server.iFit Live, which is the only way to make custom workouts is quite expensive, and the treadmill doesn’t even come with so much as a free trial. It costs $9.99/mo or $99/yr.
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I was thinking of trying it out, but with their crappy support, I don’t want to give them my money. The worst part is that there’s this really cool iFit app that runs on iOS and Android that lets you visualize your workouts in realtime, but it only works on a handful of treadmills, and mine is not included on the list. Of course, they don’t tell you this, so I didn’t figure it out until I’d already bought the treadmill. Doing the workouts on the treadmill’s rather ugly and primitive display isn’t nearly as cool as via google Street View, or at least tracking it on a live google map.The treadmill’s controller is garbage, too. It doesn’t let you customize the built-in workouts, and doesn’t even let you input things such as age/gender/weight, so the calorie calculations are completely worthless.
I started thinking about hacking my own controller for the treadmill, but then decided to first see what could be done via software.It turns out the treadmill has a built in telnetd, and if you telnet to its IP number, you can log in as root without using any password. Ssh is also supported, but it requires the root password. Once you telnet in, it’s readily apparent that it’s running embedded Linux of some sort on an ARM processor. The treadmill control stuff is all in directory /icon/bin. Here is a list of the running processes:# psPID Uid VSZ Stat Command1 root 652 S init2 root SWN ksoftirqd/03 root SW write SMCSRscsi0: Nuvoton NUC900 GNAND DRIVER!nand card init1. write SMCSRCard0 Removedcard reset4.
write SMCSR6. I am am also the (not so) proud owner of a 12.0TT. In my case, I noticed that the velocity was not constant day-to-day, even though the console was showing that. After comparing three different measuring techniques (pace counter, band length, and rolling wheel) I establish that the console was showing between 5% and 25% higher speed than real (the other measurements showed +/-2% variation between them).Opening up the motor housing, I found out that the reed relay which should give the speed measurement was just not there! I complained with ProForm and have not heard from them yet, but seriously suspect that they even saved on the 10-15$ of the little device.Also, I was upset of the IFit problems reported above, and have hacked the proprietary wpl code. If anybody is interested, I will send description of what it contains, and how to read/write it.
Just send me a PM. Wow, I suspected that the speed was off, but not by that much!
How about the distance error? Is it directly correlated with speed error? I noticed that mine is missing the reed switch, as well. I suspect they’re estimating speed by the PWM signal they’re sending the motor.
My idea was to hack in a BT 4.0 bike speed/distance sensor so that I could use a smartphone app to track my workouts I tried to use the magnet on the roller that’s for the missing reed switch. Unfortunately, the diameter of the roller is so much smaller than what the bike sensor expects that it doesn’t work.
What is worse, is that velocity varies, and it varies a lot. I noticed that my heart beat was changing very much while exercising, day-to-day, and started having thought. Then I went on travel, and saw that on professional treadmills my heart was much more constant. That raised a flag.The clock on the treadmill is quite accurate, but distance is calculated from the velocity, therefore has the same error.My plan forward is to get a reed relay from Radio Shack (4$) and mount it near the magnet of the roller.
An Arduino to read the reed (tongue twisting) and at least I would know how fast and how long I would be running. Will post again if successful. Interesting!I have an elliptical machine and a “pre 2015” ifit live module. You can see the files mentioned (or last workout anyway) if you plug it into a PC. It mounts as a disk.
Interesting the wifi key is stored in plain text ?What has annoyed me is that there is no option to simulate incline of the iFit workout using the machines power ramp. It always uses resistance. I thought about (but not too much) trying to see if this interpretation is encoded into the wpl2 file.What makes me think it may be is that a colleague has a different machine/the 2015 wifi module. When he downloads from ifit he gets similar results to me. When he uses his ipad (yes his elliptical works) to download the workout – his machine controls the ramp and the ipad can be used to control resistance.
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Shame he’s leaving soon as I’d like to work that out!Anyway, I’ll probably never get round to looking at this, so wish you luck. I recently purchased an iFit module (2015 edition; doesn’t mount as a USB disk) for a norictrack elliptical, and I’m trying to use the advice here to get into the system and maybe get my own workouts running. My module has working telnet, but the ftp daemon is already running and doesn’t show much to anonymous logins. Should I be quitting that service and relaunching a new one? I’m relatively new to this sort of thing so I’m being cautious (not willing to risk breaking things yet). I am also trying to extract the root password file from passwd, but have not been successful yet.
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This is awesome. I have another iFit exercise machine (Nordictrack Audiostrider 990, an elliptical machine) and I’ve hoped someone would work out how to get access to this stuff. Ideally, I’d like to see a custom controller for the whole machine, so you could interface it with a computer and use it for immersive input and output. E.g., play Skyrim, and actually run your character around, with the speed controlled by your actual speed, elevation controlled by the terrain you’re crossing, and maybe resistance tied to how much your character is carrying.
That sort of thing. My impression is that all the necessary hardware is present, but they’ve certainly not documented it well or made it easy to work with in this capacity. I’ve got an ancient elliptical, no internet connectivity, but does support iFit audio. Probably proprietary, but have you come across any documentation of how that data is encoded? Main project is to web enable the machine, this is just a side research.Also – the machine has a rj11 jack on the back (plus a 3 pin connector under an access panel); some searching on the daughterboard behind that jack shows it is used in a variety of fitness machines, probably for diagnostics. Did yours have one and if it did, did you figure out what it was for?Here’s the main project thread if you are interested.
I have a old nordictrack eliptical with iFit support – just audio. Old gesr – still works.I did create a psp program years ago that could control the eliptical. I also figured out the control sound format – for eliptical, treadmill and bicycle equipment. The patent on the sound control mechanism ran out in 2004 (see patent ). The patent describes the audio pretty well.I’ll dig up my old notes (multiple computers ago) and see what I still have – may not be useful at all or not. Should be possible to get working on some device that is kind of current today.
The controls to the devices were easy audio bits – incline and resistance for example and they had to be in a well timed pattern. Easy to software create.I’m tempted to see if i can get it talking again to something a simple set of text directions driving it would be nice – wait till time #:## and then incline to x and resistsnce to y. Simple – but all that is needed.Dave. I have a NordicTrack A.C.T.
Treadmill with an EXIF12 module which I had purchased for it. The guidance on this page for getting into the system is the same (telnet & ftp). I’m in the process of reverse engineering the WPL binary — it uses the same record format as what’s described on the github but different record types/content. Which makes sense, because speed/miles/incline have no meaning on an elliptical; instead it is resistance and target pace. It appears (I am not positive on this yet) that workout segments are delimited by stride counts and not distance or time, but there are some extra bytes / scaling going on that I haven’t figured out yet. Just sharing in case there’s interest. This blog post is pretty old but my elliptical is not that old (few years) so maybe this stuff is still relevant.
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